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Information flow in decision markets_

MetaDAO has been running futarchy in production — hiring, treasury moves, legal agreements, all decided by markets. Kollan House reports from the field: what actually gets information out of people's heads and into prices, when revealing information hurts the revealer, and the failure modes nobody has solved yet — including an adversarial proposal live right now.

speaker Kollan House format talk + Q&A transcript 2,108 words reading time ~10 min

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tl;dr

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Futarchy is live, and it decides real things.

MetaDAO runs token issuance, fund transfers, market-making mandates, incorporation, grants, and hiring through decision markets wrapped in a Marshall Islands legal entity. The mechanism even hired futarchy's inventor: Robin Hanson became a paid adviser through a MetaDAO decision market.

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A decision market never asks "will this happen?"

It asks: if we did this, would the token be worth more? Each proposal forks into pass and fail markets, trades for three days, and the time-weighted price gap triggers on-chain execution. Only the winning fork becomes real; the other is rolled back.

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The open problems are information-flow problems.

Revealing can hurt the revealer — MetaDAO's own token sales got front-run when buyers were named. TWAP can be gamed at the window's edge. Deep liquidity may or may not be needed, volume is a bad proxy for decision quality, and a proposal to drain a treasury is trading right now.

If you're new to any of this

A prediction market asks will X happen? and pays out when the world answers. A decision market asks a conditional question — "would our token be worth more if we did X than if we didn't?" — and then makes X happen or not based on the answer. Futarchy is governance built on that primitive: vote on what you value, bet on what will achieve it. This talk is a field report from the organization that has pushed it furthest.

›A bit more background

A TWAP — time-weighted average price — averages a market's price over a window instead of taking one instant. It resists momentary manipulation, at the cost of responding slowly and being gameable in its own ways.

In MetaDAO's design, a proposal forks the token into conditional pass and fail versions. When the proposal resolves, one fork becomes canonical — redeemable for the real asset — and trades in the other are unwound. You were never betting on an event; you were pricing two possible worlds, and one of them is deleted.

Show slides
01

Markets that make decisions

Title slide: Information flow in decision markets — Kollan House, co-founder MetaDAO
slide 01/07 / Futarchy in production: markets, not votes, direct MetaDAO's outcomes.

I'm Kollan House, co-founder of MetaDAO. We're pioneering futarchy in the Solana ecosystem — we were the first to build a working futarchy mechanism.[2] Futarchy, if nobody knows, is Robin Hanson's idea from the late nineties:[3] there's all this information out there, and markets seem to distill it — so what if we used markets to drive decision-making in its place? I'm going to quickly walk through what a decision market is, and then get to the part that matters for today: information flow.

02

What we actually decide this way

What decision markets decide at MetaDAO: on-chain execution (token issuance, transfers, parameters) and legal agreements (market making, hiring, incorporation, GMU grant with Robin Hanson)
slide 02/07 / A market that directs an outcome: execution, legal agreements, grants, hiring.

A decision market is a market that directs an outcome. What outcomes? We use it for on-chain execution — token issuance, transfers of funds, updating parameters on the DAO. And we use it for executing legal agreements. I just had a proposal pass this year for market-making arrangements: it gave me the authority to go out on behalf of the Marshall Islands LLC and engage those parties.[4] Incorporation. A grant to Robin Hanson with GMU to research decision markets against traditional markets.[5] Approval of initiatives — budgets, quarterly plans, new business ventures. We use it for anything and everything, and we built a legal wrapper to make sure it holds up.

03

The mechanics: fork, trade, execute

Mechanics: trade yes/no price; IBM Ginni Rometty fire-or-keep example; split into two; 3-day window; TWAP with 24-hour delay; only one fork canonical
slide 03/07 / Fork the token, trade three days, TWAP decides, one side becomes canonical.

Practically: we trade the price of yes and no — should we take this action or not? The canonical example is firing the CEO. Ginni Rometty at IBM presided over twenty-some consecutive quarters of revenue decline;[6] a decision market for IBM asks whether the stock would trade higher with her fired or kept, and if the fired-price is higher — that's what you do.

How we do it: split the token into two conditional versions and trade for three days — we started at ten, which is a long time to hold a market open. Then take the time-weighted average price of each market,[7] and if the delta clears the threshold, the on-chain instruction executes — which is what lets us do everything downstream. Think of it as a fork: only one side is canonical and redeemable for the underlying asset.

04

The information game

Information games: getting sophisticated parties to reveal; deep liquidity question; volume not a good proxy; payout may be a year out; who pays for liquidity
slide 04/07 / Volume is a poor proxy; resolution lives in the token price itself.

How does this relate to today's topic? It's all information flows. We want people to reveal what they know into these markets — that's how the decisions get better. But how do you get them to do it? Do you need deep liquidity to make it worth their while? Honest answer: we don't know. We've traded with really small liquidity and with larger liquidity, and we don't have a good answer.

“This is all information flows. We want people to reveal this information in these markets. Obviously, that’s how we get better decision. But how do we get them to do that?”

— Kollan House, on the core design problem

Counterintuitively, volume is not a good proxy for how good a decision is — outside of measuring opinion and conflict between parties. And unlike Polymarket or other prediction markets, there's no settlement event: the resolution is in the token price itself, and the payout might be a year or more away. So the design levers we have are things like different liquidity curves at different times, and paying for participation. The unglamorous question on the slide is the real one: who's paying for this?

05

When revealing hurts the revealer

Advantages equal disadvantages: competitor leakage; revealed information disadvantaging execution; META token sale front-run past the proposal's price range; firing is a legal footgun
slide 05/07 / Public proposals can front-run their own execution — it happened to META.

The advantages are the disadvantages. These proposals are public information. What happens when that information feeds a competitor and damages your business — how do you get that decision made on a public market? And what happens when the revealed information creates an environment that no longer benefits the party who revealed it?

“What happens when this information could feed into a competitor and, you know, destroy your business? How do you get a decision to be made there on a public market?”

— Kollan House, on public disclosure as a competitive risk

We hit this ourselves. When we went out to sell tokens and raise money, parties would show up and identify themselves — "hey, we're Pantera" — and the attention alone would drive the token price up through the cap they were willing to pay. The execution of the sale ended up outside the range of the proposal, and we couldn't take the money.[8] That was a troubled time. And on the legal side: we hired somebody through a decision market,[9] but firing on a pure decision market isn't really applicable — there are a lot of legal footguns there.

06

Known failure modes, candidate fixes

Mechanism problems: TWAP hit-by-a-bus scenario; VWAP+TWAP; Hanson's statistical Brownian motion suggestion; structured proposals traded over 20 days; blind OTC proposal crafting
slide 06/07 / TWAP fails at the edge; fixes: VWAP blends, Brownian motion, longer windows.

We know this isn't the final form. We use TWAP, and we know it's not great — there's a scenario where you simply can't impart your information into the market, because near the end of the window the price would have to move toward infinity to shift the average. Say the proposal transfers me ten million dollars and there's an hour left: your late trades can't move the time-weighted average enough to stop it.[10] We've said volume isn't a great proxy, but maybe volume plus a time-weighted price is. Robin suggested a statistical Brownian-motion approach; I have no idea how to get that on-chain and oracle-ready — if you do, I'd love to talk.[11]

“We use TWAP. We know it’s not great. There’s a scenario where you could not impart information in the environment because the price would have to move to infinity to impact it.”

— Kollan House, on TWAP’s end-of-window failure

Then there's structure. When a team wants to be exited, acquired, or liquidated, we currently trade those proposals over three days. Maybe what should be traded in twenty days shouldn't be traded in three — the information takes that long to arrive. And proposal crafting: for our OTC deals we no longer name the parties at all. We publish the minimum terms we'll accept and what we won't, and parties submit independently. The market has to trust us to execute accordingly — that's the price of not leaking the counterparty.

Contact slide: metadao.fi, Kollan House, @kollan_house on Telegram, @metanallok on X
slide 07/07 / metadao.fi — where the experiment is running.

If any of this sounds interesting — that's the website and my contact. Happy to answer questions.

07

Q&A

audience questions, lightly condensed

Askers are unnamed on tape; one exchange involves the previous speaker. Reconstruction notes in the footnotes.[12]

audience → previous speaker

In your presentation you had some hesitation around objective functions — whether you can even define them correctly — and you talked about the difficulty of surfacing information. Markets in general, and decision markets in particular, are a mechanism for surfacing information, but they need some objective function to surface it against. How do you see the connection between your line of thinking and markets?

previous speaker

Prediction markets are your wheelhouse — I'd say they're one implementation of collective intelligence. What we're trying to do is the complementary side: provide an explanatory model for why you get the results you can measure with prediction markets. If we're making progress on our model, then in principle we'd be able to predict what would happen in the prediction markets for an actual company.[13]

kollan

Right — and note we don't do settlement. We don't ask whether the event is going to occur. We ask: if this event were to occur, would it drive the price of the asset up or down? It's distilling all that information and mapping it into a much broader market environment, with sophisticated participants whose models all derive into the price. Why does a company's share price go up? What drives it? There's a ton of information behind that.

audience

Have you done clustering studies on the people who screen companies?

kollan

It's so small right now. Our largest market traded with about fifteen hundred addresses; a typical market trades with forty. The liquidity and the incentive to drive profit isn't necessarily there yet. We'd like to get there.

audience

Hanson's mechanism does well where there's repeated expertise over time — people reliably feeding good information into markets get selected. But it's also meant to surface the best information at a single point in time. For something like a specific funding round,[14] the relevant expertise might not correlate with who accumulates resources over repeated markets. What does a mechanism look like that reconciles those two?

kollan

Very good question, and the simple answer is: we don't know. This is the first time it's ever been implemented and tried; we have opinions, and we use asset-based pricing. Robin's original work discusses KPI- and metrics-based markets, running multiple markets at once — even markets over what number should go into a proposal, so a twenty-percent allocation gets set by the sophisticated participants themselves. My view: if the markets get liquid enough and the industry's capitalization gets large enough, the experts show up naturally. If the DEX is going to buy a zoo with twenty zebras, somebody who knows the value of zebras says "I can influence this decision" — and profits by being right. If the incentives and alignment are there, these problems start solving themselves.

audience

Can you talk about adversarial outcomes you've seen? Proposals execute automatically on-chain — have you seen proposals designed to take advantage of that, and can the research community help prevent bad outcomes?

kollan

As the founder: I think the second or third proposal ever was to burn all the tokens in the treasury. It passed. I didn't necessarily agree with it, but we proceeded.[15] And right now there is an ongoing proposal to drain the treasury of one of our organizations — people can create these proposals; there's a cost to it. What I like about these markets is that attacking isn't a one-time expense like a fifty-one-percent attack: coming back tomorrow costs you the capital deployment and the time, again. The attackers stand to win about one and a half million dollars if they execute. But the market capitalization of the token is far larger, and we've seen some of these markets trade total volume several times that capitalization[16] — there are active participants who like defending these things. Spam, though — I wish spam were solved in crypto. It isn't. None of this guarantees great answers.

“I think the second or third proposal was to burn all the tokens in the treasury. So that passed. I didn’t necessarily agree with it.”

— Kollan House, answering a question about adversarial proposals

Glossary & further reading

Every dotted-underline term above, in full, with sources.

futarchy

Robin Hanson's proposal that organizations "vote on values, but bet on beliefs": elected values define what counts as good (say, the token price), and conditional markets decide which policies achieve it. Proposed around 2000; essentially untested until MetaDAO put it in production on Solana.

See: Hanson, "Shall We Vote on Values, But Bet on Beliefs?".

decision market vs. prediction market

A prediction market settles against reality: will X happen? pays when X resolves. A decision market is conditional: it prices the asset in the world where X is done and the world where it isn't, then causes the higher-priced world. There is no settlement event — as Kollan puts it, "the resolution is in the token price," possibly a year or more out. The unchosen conditional market is unwound as if it never happened.

TWAP, and how it fails here

Time-weighted average price over the trading window decides the outcome, with (per the slide) a 24-hour delay so the market first digests the proposal. The known failure: late information is structurally muted. Near the window's end, moving the average requires moving the instantaneous price by enormous amounts — Kollan's "price would have to approach infinity" / hit-by-a-bus scenario. Candidate fixes on slide 6: blending VWAP with TWAP, or Hanson's suggestion of a statistical Brownian-motion test for whether price movement is informative — unimplemented on-chain.

conditional tokens / the fork

Each proposal splits the token into pass-conditional and fail-conditional versions that trade separately for the window. On execution, one version becomes canonical and redeemable for the underlying; the other's trades are reverted. Holders were pricing two futures, and the mechanism deletes one.

structured proposals ("MetaDAO 2.0")

Matching the trading window to the information's arrival speed: acquisitions, exits, and liquidations traded over ~20 days rather than 3, plus proposal-crafting norms like blind OTC terms — publish minimum acceptable terms, never counterparties, and let parties submit independently. The cost is trust: the market must believe the team executes as stated.

Notes

  1. Bio from metadao.fi and documented coverage; "first to implement futarchy at scale" is the consistent description across independent write-ups. The Hanson hiring — through MetaDAO’s own decision market — is documented in reference [05].↩
  2. Multiple independent sources describe MetaDAO as the first at-scale, in-production futarchy implementation; Hanson himself called it the farthest-along public effort (reference [05]).↩
  3. He says "1999" on stage; futarchy is usually dated to Hanson’s paper circa 2000 ("Shall We Vote on Values, But Bet on Beliefs?", revised 2013). Reference [03].↩
  4. The tape garbles it to "Marsh Islands"; MetaDAO’s legal wrapper is a Marshall Islands LLC — the entity on whose behalf the market-making mandate was granted.↩
  5. As stated on stage and listed on slide 2 ("Grants — GMU with Robin Hanson"); the grant itself is reported here on his word and slide, not independently verified.↩
  6. The tape garbles the name to "Jenny Rometti" and drops the key phrase; slide 3 restores it: Ginni Rometty, IBM, "presiding over 24 consecutive quarters of revenue decline." Contemporaneous coverage generally counted 22–23 straight down quarters before growth returned in late 2017; the slide’s 24 is kept as presented. The fire-the-CEO case is futarchy’s canonical example; the attribution he cites for it is garbled on tape beyond recovery.↩
  7. Slide 3 adds a detail the talk skips: the TWAP consumption is delayed 24 hours so the market digests the proposal before the average that decides it starts accumulating.↩
  8. His first-person account; slide 5 confirms the structure ("parties wishing to purchase tokens drove up the token price such that the execution of the sale would be outside the range of the proposal"). Pantera is named on tape as the example of a self-identifying buyer; the episode is reported on his word.↩
  9. He doesn’t name the hire on stage. The documented case fitting the description: MetaDAO hired Robin Hanson as a paid adviser in February 2025 — the proposal ran through MetaDAO’s own decision market and the pass market priced higher (reference [05]).↩
  10. His example, lightly compressed: a proposal transferring him $10M with little window left cannot be stopped, because late trades can’t move the time-weighted average enough — slide 6’s "hit by a bus" scenario, where "prices may need to approach infinity."↩
  11. The tape garbles it to "statistical burning motion"; slide 6 has it: "Statistical Brownian Motion — Robin’s suggestion," with the open question "how do you get that onchain?"↩
  12. Q&A condensed from the transcript; askers unnamed on tape. Garbles that resisted resolution were dropped rather than guessed.↩
  13. This voice is not Kollan’s: the question is addressed to the previous speaker about their presentation, and the answer — prediction markets as one implementation of collective intelligence, with the speaker’s own work as "the complementary side… an explanatory model" — is consistent with Matt Liston, whose Cooperative General Intelligence talk immediately preceded this one. Attribution inferred from position and content; not named on tape.↩
  14. The tape has "call companies… a certain coding round"; "a specific funding round" is the reading that fits the sentence, marked here as a reconstruction.↩
  15. The treasury token burn is independently documented as one of MetaDAO’s early executed proposals; the "second or third proposal" ordering is his recollection.↩
  16. As heard, the figures are "market capitalization… about eight billion" and "twenty billion in total volume, which is like five times the market capitalization" — mutually inconsistent (5 × 8 ≠ 20), so the magnitudes are likely mis-transcribed. The claim’s structure — attack prize ≈ $1.5M, dwarfed by capitalization, with cumulative market volume a multiple of it — is preserved without endorsing either number; exact figures are for Kollan to confirm.↩

References

  1. [01]Information flow in decision markets — Video recording of Kollan House’s field report on MetaDAO decision markets.
  2. [02]Slide deck (PDF) — Seven-slide deck accompanying House’s presentation on information flow and futarchy.
  3. [03]Shall We Vote on Values, But Bet on Beliefs? — Proposal for voters to define goals while prediction markets select policies.
  4. [04]metadao.fi — MetaDAO’s platform for fundraising, investment, and market-based organizational decisions.
  5. [05]MetaDAO hires futarchy's creator Robin Hanson as adviser — CoinDesk report on MetaDAO using futarchy to decide whether to hire Robin Hanson.
  6. [06]Jonathan Passerat-Palmbach — A Field Guide to Agentic MEV — Talk surveying how AI systems create and exploit MEV-like information asymmetries.
  7. [07]Dan Robinson — Learnings from Optimization Arena — Talk examining agent-assisted optimization, research harnesses, and benchmark overfitting.
  8. [08]Brandon Duderstadt — Information Liquidity — Talk modeling information diffusion and agents that broker information into markets.